Listen to this episode on Apple Podcasts null Listen now Listen to this episode on Spotify null Listen now Anyone who thinks security leaders are humorless sticklers for the rules has never spent half an hour with Jaya Baloo. But in this episode of Chasing Entropy , Dave Lewis does just that, and the result is a frank and irreverent conversation that proves that security may be serious business, but it’s still a fun job. Baloo is the co-founder and COO/CISO of Aisle , an AI-powered vulnerability management startup with the bold goal of “zero exploitable vulnerabilities.” Baloo’s career has spa